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Hype Trap Bet: Joshua Dobbs’ case for Comeback Player of the Year

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Last updated: 2023/11/16 at 1:25 PM
BigP Published November 16, 2023
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    Most Rushing Yards by Quarterbacks (2023)Largest NFL Upsets This SeasonJoshua Dobbs Career TimelineIs it a trap?Comeback player of the yearShortest Odds to win Comeback Player of the YearJoshua Dobbs’ odds to win Comeback Player of the YearNFC North Straight ForecastThe bets to make

Nov 16, 2023, 07:00 AM ET

“Caddyshack” is often regarded as one of the best comedic films of all time. Between Chevy Chase, Rodney Dangerfield, Bill Murray and a whole cast of other characters, it stands the test of time.

I’m sure everybody has their own personal favorite scene or moment from the film; mine is Bill Murray’s monologue as he takes aim at some flowers. The delivery is on point, as is the narration of him “getting all of that one” with a 2-iron and hitting it 105 yards. A Cinderella story, coming out of nowhere, about to become the Masters champion (while highlighting the irony of a groundskeeper literally destroying the grounds he’s working on).

But he’s right. Everyone fantasizes and dramatizes the tale of the underdog. The best sports movies and beloved sports stories tend to come from unheralded players and teams making the most of their opportunity on the biggest stage.

Which is why the Joshua Dobbs story could very well be the story of the 2023 NFL season. I’ve spent a few days trying to decide which part of his story I like best, and I still can’t pick because every piece makes the story that much better.

  • Maybe it’s because he’s a 28-year old journeyman QB finally getting his first chance as a full-time starter and thriving

  • He’s also a rocket scientist who interned at NASA while on the Jaguars’ practice squad a few years ago (NASA has now dubbed him “the Passtronaut,” which is one of the best nicknames ever)

  • His TikTok game is elite, including a montage of his incredible play with the Vikings accompanied by Creed’s “Higher”

  • Or is it the fact that his 368 rushing yards ranks second among QBs, behind only Lamar Jackson?

Most Rushing Yards by Quarterbacks (2023)

Player Rushing Yards
Lamar Jackson 481
Josh Dobbs 368
Jalen Hurts 316
Patrick Mahomes 258
Josh Allen 246

Or maybe it’s because he’s replacing Kirk Cousins on a team with playoff aspirations and is 2-0 — including an upset win where he was thrown into action and hadn’t taken a single snap with his new OL after being with the team for four days.

Largest NFL Upsets This Season

Team Spread Opponent Score
Arizona Cardinals +11 Cowboys 28-16
Cleveland Browns +9.5 49ers 19-17
Denver Broncos +7.5 Bills 24-22
New England Patriots +7.5 Bills 29-25
Indianapolis Colts +7.5 Ravens 22-19 (OT)
Houston Texans +7.5 Jaguars 37-17
>>Game-winning play in final minute

Or is it the fact that this isn’t even the biggest upset he’s pulled this season, having beaten the Cowboys as double-digit underdogs to give the Cardinals their first win of the season and cause chaos in survivor pools nationwide?

Joshua Dobbs Career Timeline

April 2017 Steelers select Dobbs in 4th round of NFL Draft
Sept. 2019 Traded to Jaguars
Sept. 2020 Claimed off waivers by Steelers
April 2022 Signed with Browns on 1-year deal
Dec. 2022 Waived by Browns, signs with Lions
Dec. 2022 Signed by Titans off DET practice squad
Jan. 2023 Starts winner-take-all game for Titans in Week 18
March 2023 Signs with Browns
April 2023 Traded to Cardinals
October 2023 Traded to Vikings

The 28-year old phenom has been on seven teams in his seven-year career, including five in the last calendar year. His first career touchdown came in December. And now he has the Vikings at 6-4, riding a five-game winning streak, just 1.5 games out of first in the division.

Dobbs is currently +550 to win Comeback Player of the Year, and somehow 100-1 to win MVP (tied with A.J. Brown and Justin Herbert for the 14th-shortest odds). Can we ride with the Passtronaut when awards season rolls around? How can we handicap the Vikings’ futures?


Is it a trap?

Comeback player of the year

The only players ahead of Dobbs in the CPOY market are Damar Hamlin at -200 and Tua Tagovailoa at +320. In fact, those are the only players under 20-1, with good reason. You’ll notice that five of the top six are quarterbacks; that’s likely because a signal-caller has won the award in five straight seasons and 11 of the past 15.

Shortest Odds to win Comeback Player of the Year

Player Odds
Damar Hamlin -200
Tua Tagovailoa +320
Joshua Dobbs +550
Lamar Jackson +2000
Aaron Rodgers +2200
Baker Mayfield +2200
Odds by ESPN BET

Baker Mayfield fits the mold of Geno Smith‘s win from last season, but Smith led the league in completion percentage and hadn’t been a starter in seven seasons. He also had the season-opening narrative on “Monday Night Football” where he delivered the epic line “They wrote me off. … I ain’t write back though.” Mayfield has started 10-plus games every year and is league-average at best this season.

Aaron Rodgers won’t win the award off one or two games regardless of how well he plays. This is a regular-season award and if the Jets are still in playoff contention, their defense will be carrying them. And Lamar Jackson missed only five games last season and played relatively well — there’s no “narrative” or media buildup to back him.

So it’s a three-player race. Tua missed only four games, but the discourse all offseason was about how he’d be able to return to the field and whether his career was over. All he’s done since then is lead the NFL in passing touchdowns on the league’s most prolific offense.

And that’s where I think +550 is a little thin to bet on Dobbs winning the award. The story is amazing, and I’m rooting for him to keep up the pace. But he still went 1-7 with Arizona and is a long shot to finish the season with a winning record, and his underdog story exists because people were unaware of him, not because people had written him off. Peyton Hillis and Kurt Warner didn’t win the award when they rose from obscurity either.

Joshua Dobbs’ odds to win Comeback Player of the Year

Preseason Not listed
After Week 3 40-1
Before trade to Vikings 100-1
Entering Week 10 60-1
After Week 10 win +900
After Week 11 win +500
Current +550
>>Odds by ESPN BET

Dobbs was a 100-1 long shot at ESPN BET before being traded to the Vikings, having played all season as a starting QB and pulling off the biggest upset of the season. He moved to 9-1 after the Falcons win, an increase from 1% implied odds to 10%. After the Saints win, +550 odds now imply a 15% chance. But the Vikings were only 3.5- and 2.5-point underdogs in those games. ESPN Analytics gave Minnesota a 49% and 50% chance to win those games.

With two players coming back from much more serious adversity (the kind that traditionally wins the award), and one of them ranking among the league’s elite QBs, I would still want closer to 15-1 or 20-1 odds if I were to bet on Dobbs to win Comeback Player of the Year.

NFC North Straight Forecast

Finishing Order Odds
1st DET Lions / 2nd MIN Vikings -300
1st DET Lions / 2nd GB Packers +450
1st MIN Vikings / 2nd DET Lions +850
1st DET Lions / 2nd CHI Bears +2000
Odds by ESPN BET (under Division Specials)

Minnesota Vikings to finish first in NFC North, Detroit Lions to finish second (+850)

No need to fret, I’m still more than happy to take an outlandish bet on Dobbs continuing his success.

The Vikings are 1.5 games out of first place and they play the Lions twice in the final three weeks. The division will likely still be up for grabs at that point, since Minnesota has an easier rest-of-season schedule than the Lions (next three games: Broncos, Bears, Raiders).

All four of the team’s losses have come by one score (hello regression!) and Justin Jefferson should be back in the coming weeks as well. ESPN Analytics gives the Vikings a 22% chance to win the North, which is great value on the 11% implied odds we get from +850 (and the Lions aren’t finishing third/fourth).

Think of it this way: if Dobbs is going to win Comeback Player of the Year, he’s going to need to keep winning games. And if he keeps winning, I’ll happily take the +850 instead of the +550 listed above, especially since there’s a chance Minnesota wins the division, but the voters have already decided Hamlin is winning the award (he is the odds-on favorite, after all).


The bets to make

Pittsburgh Steelers at Cleveland Browns (-1, 32.5)
Sunday 1 p.m. ET, First Energy Stadium, Cleveland

The Browns could really use a QB like Dobbs with Deshaun Watson out for the rest of the season. Both teams are 6-3, a half-game out of first, and are fighting tooth-and-nail for every win.

Instead, we have a total currently set at 32.5 over at ESPN BET, which would be the second-lowest total of any game in the past decade. Only last season’s Saints-Browns game on Christmas Eve was lower (32) and the temperature was six degrees at kickoff.

I’m leaning toward the under and the Steelers ML (+100). Dorian Thompson-Robinson looked overmatched against the Ravens in his NFL debut (0 TD, 3 Int, 4 sacks) and the Steelers will bring at least that much pressure. Pittsburgh is 2-3 against teams averaging 20-plus PPG (including the Browns), and 4-0 against teams under that mark. With such a low total, my only worry for the over would be a Steelers defensive touchdown, which we saw two of in the first meeting.

Philadelphia Eagles at Kansas City Chiefs (-2.5, 45,5)
Monday 8:15 p.m. ET, GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, Missouri

Wow, another “game of the year!” Whether you call it the Taylor Swift Bowl, the Kelce Bowl, the Andy Reid Bowl, or just the Super Bowl rematch, it’s almost certain to live up to the hype.

I know we’ve been riding the prime-time under trend (25-7 this season and 10-1 on MNF), but this total is a LOT lower than we would traditionally expect from these two teams and I think the public narrative is finally hopping on board to steam this total down.

That being said, I think the Eagles playing without Dallas Goedert, coupled with Jalen Hurts playing at less than 100 percent (a bye week may help long term but he’s not 2022 Jalen) has me leaning to Kansas City covering the 2.5-point spread (-115). The Chiefs’ defense is outperforming Patrick Mahomes, allowing the second-fewest points per game in the league, and is even better at home, where they’ve held opponents to just four offensive scores prior to the fourth quarter all season.

If you’re not as confident in the Chiefs to cover, but think it will be a close game, try this same-game parlay out: Chiefs +5 and Mahomes over 1.5 Pass TD (-120). Mahomes has thrown for multiple scores against every team except the Jets and the Broncos, and the Eagles tilt opponents to the air. Tacking on a relatively safe leg to a seven-point swing in the spread for roughly the same juice as the original bet? I’ll take that every day.

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